Family [F143]
GREGG
Parents
WILLIAM GREGG {M} [P439] = AGNES CURRIE {F} [P440]
Married Friday 26 September 1788, Ochiltree Ayrshire Scotland IGI M116092
WILLIAM GREGG:
Born Monday 28 April 1766, Ayr Ayrshire Scotland
Christened Tuesday 29 April 1766, Ayr [SCR FR446]
Died May 1841, Failford Ayrshire Scotland
Buried Wednesday 19 May 1841, Tarbolton Ayrshire Scotland
OCCUPATION: Mason/DanceMaster/Master of Manners
SOURCE: OPR/IGI/SENSUS/IGI C115787
OPR AYR: 'William Greg lawful son to James Greg Master of Manners and Janet Henderson his spouse born 20th April 1766 and baptised 29th April'.
It is believed that our William is the son of James Greg. They are both known to have been 'Dancing Masters' and 'Master of Manners'. It is William who is credited as being the Dance Master to ROBERT BURNS at the Bachelors Club Tarbolton in the late 1770's. A fiddle said to be the one used by William at the time was presented to the Scottish National Trust in 1997 by a Major John Weir who acquired the fiddle from a local source in Tarbolton.
We have an OPR death record of a William Greg of this period who died as a boy, AYR :'William Greg son of James Greg aged 10 yrs and 3 months died of fever buried 1 December 1776'. This is about 4 months younger than the William in question and may have been son to another James Greg.?
OPR TARBOLTON: 'William Gregg from Failford Hospital was interred at Tarbolton 19th May 1841'. First census in Scotland JUNE 1841 just too late.
William's age would have been 75 when he died (assuming the birth details/parents accredited to him are correct[1997ADG]).
William's name was spelled 'Gregg' when he died.
William's son John[P457] inherited the 'Gregg Fiddle'
AGNES CURRIE:
Alias AGNES GREIG (Friday 26 September 1788)
Alias AGNES GREGG (Friday 26 September 1788)
Born 1766, St Quivox Ayrshire Scotland
Died Tuesday 2 October 1855, Failford Ayrshire Scotland
Buried 1855, Tarbolton Church Yard - Ayrshire Scotland
OCCUPATION: Weaver
SOURCE: OPR/IGI/CERTS & SENSUS
Many family details have been confirmed from Agnes' Death certificate[1855] giving information for husband,children and names of her parents. It also confirmed her own birth place to have been St. Quivox Ayrs. Agnes and William lived the latter years of their lives at Failford Alms Houses where Agnes outlived William by 10 years, and died of 'Natural Decay' aged 90 - 2 October 1855. Informant - Son William
1841 and 1851 census at Failford Hospital shows Agnes as being Dancing Teachers widow age 75 and 84* respectively.
According to details on her Death Cert.(1855 ) Agnes was born in St Quivox(1766). Parents William Currie(wright) and Elizabeth Reid. Details of a Margaret also born in St Quivox(1774) to William Currie/Elizabeth Reid suggests she was most likely sister to Agnes.
1841 CENSUS Piece: SCT1841/619 Place: Tarbolton-Ayrshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Tarbolton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 9
Address: Coopers Hospital
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HUMPHREY James M 83 Inmate Ayrshire
GREGG Agnes F 75 Inmate Ayrshire (M/S Currie)
CREE Barbara F 47 Ayrshire
PEDEN Alexr. M 74 Inmate Ayrshire
MCGILBREY Daniel M 70 Outside Census County (1841)
MCGILBREY Agnes F 68 Ayrshire
HILLHOUSE Elisabeth F 89 Inmate Ayrshire
GUTHRIE James M 30 Agricultural Labourer Ayrshire
GUTHRIE Sarah F 30 Ayrshire
GUTHRIE Jean F 7 Ayrshire
GUTHRIE Margaret F 4 Ayrshire
GUTHRIE Janet F 2 Ayrshire
AULD Thomas M 25 Tile Mounter Ayrshire
Children
James GREGG {M} [P463] = Mary MACKENZIE {F} [P448] > Family [F423]
Married Friday 14 June 1811, Ochiltree Ayrs IGI M116092
James GREGG:
Born Friday 17 July 1789, 'Bonnyton' Ochiltree Ayrs Scotland
Christened Sunday 19 July 1789, Ochiltree Ayrs
Died BEF October 1855, 'Died abroad' Date/Place unknown
OCCUPATION: Died abroad
SOURCE: OPR/SCR FR398 + SCR marriage
OPR Ochiltree: 'James Greig lawful son to William Greig and Agnes Currie in Bonnyton was baptised 19th July 1789'.
James surname spelled Greig in birth records but Gregg in marriage records
1999-ADG-This marriage found in SCR-yet to be proved as this James: OPR OCHILTREE: 'James Gregg in this parish and Mary Mckenzie in parish of Stair after regular proclamation were married 14th June 1811'.
From details on James' mother Agnes Currie's death certificate[2/10/1855] we know only that James 'died abroad'. Also no records of children found to this couple(1999).
Mary MACKENZIE:
Alias Mary GREIG (Friday 14 June 1811)
Alias Mary GREGG (Friday 14 June 1811)
Born February 1790, New Cumnock Ayrs IGI 7018203
Christened Sunday 21 February 1790, New Cumnock
SOURCE: OPR/IGI
Elizabeth GREGG {F} [P464] = John PETTIGREW {M} [P465] > Family [F149]
Married Friday 15 July 1814, Tarbolton Ayrs IGI M116194
Elizabeth GREGG:
Alias Elizabeth PETTIGREW (Tuesday 14 June 1814)
Born July 1791, Mauchline Ayrs Scotland
Christened Sunday 10 July 1791, Mauchline Ayrs Scotland
Died Sunday 16 August 1874, Tarbolton (Montgomery St) Ayrs
OCCUPATION: silk weaver
SOURCE: OPR/IGI C116042/census
OPR MAUCHLINE: 'William Gregg mason in Mauchline and Agnes Currie his spouse . Their daughter baptised 10th July 1791 called Elizabeth'.
Elizabeth was still living in 1855 as shown on her mothers death certificate, and in 1861census report she was a widow
1861 census 17 Montgomery Street Tarbolton:
Elizabeth Pettigrew head widow 70 silk weaver b.Mauchline M/S Gregg
William Gregg brother unmarried 61 silk weaver b.Tarbolton
Janet Pettigrew grand-daughter 14 scholar b.Tarbolton
John PETTIGREW:
Born EST 1790, Poss New Monkland Lanark ( or Airdrie-Ayrshire)
Died 1844, Tarbolton Ayrs - M.I.
OCCUPATION: Tailor
SOURCE: OPR/IGI
Possibilities:
John's Parents??:JOHN PETTICREW - MARY MAC DOUGALD Marriage: 21 AUG 1792 Kilmory, Bute, Scotland M115544
Possibilities for John's Birth: JOHN PETTEGREW Christening: 05 OCT 1788 Dundonald, Ayr, Scotland Parents: Father: JOHN PETTEGREW Mother: JANET HUNTER C115904
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John Birth: 19 NOV 1789 Airdrie, , Ayr, Scotland Parents: Father: William Pettegrew Mother: Mary Smith Pettegrew Source Information: Film Number: 1239627
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I received notification from one Mark Pettigrew(CEng.Mech) b.1967 - via e-mail - for the descendants of John Pettigrew.(see P466 William). It is thought that John died in 1844 - i.e an interrment at Tarbolton in that year for a John Petticrew. Also John did not appear on the 1851 or 1861 census having appeared on the 1841 census.
William GREIG {M} [P474]
Born Wednesday 18 December 1793, Gorbals Glasgow
Christened ABT January 1794, Glasgow Gorbals District Scotland
Died BEF 1800, Tarbolton? infant
SOURCE: OPR
OPR GLASGOW: 'William Greig mason had a son brought fourth by his wife Agnes Currie upon 18th December 1793 called William'.
A second child was named William born 1800 so it is assumed this first William died pre age 7.
JOHN GREGG {M} [P457] = JEAN GIBSON {F} [P458] > Family [F146]
Married Friday 27 November 1818, Tarbolton Ayrs IGI A471905-SCR-FR441
JOHN GREGG:
Born January 1798, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland
Christened Sunday 14 January 1798, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland
Died July 1840, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland
Buried Friday 17 July 1840, Tarbolton Church Yard
OCCUPATION: weaver
SOURCE: OPR/IGI/SCR FR298&45
OPR TARBOLTON:' John Gregg lawful son to William Gregg and Agnes Currie in Tarbolton baptised 14th January 1798'.
OPR TARBOLTON: 'John Gregg interred at Tarbolton 17th July 1840'. John died aged 42.
John inherited the 'Gregg Fiddle' from his father William P439 - handed down to his son William P489.
JEAN GIBSON:
Alias Jean GREGG (Friday 27 November 1818)
Born 1791, Coylton Ayrs Scotland
Died Saturday 3 February 1866, 10 James St. Tarbolton Ayrshire
OCCUPATION: Weaver/pirn winder
SOURCE: census/certs.
Jean Gibson's life seems to have been tragic. Her father[a miller at Coylton] died aged about 40 in 1791 the same year Jean was born. Her daughter Janet died age 15 in 1836 and son James died in February 1840 aged 21.That same year Jean's husband John Gregg died in July 1840 age 42 leaving her with 4 young children. Jeans youngest daughter also named Jean had an illegitimate child at age 21 in 1855. However, Jean Gibson survived until she was 75 of age.
According to Robbie Wilson:
12. John Gregg, born January 14, 1798 in Tarbolton, Ayrshire, Scotland; died Bef. 1851. He was the son of 24. William Gregg and 25. Agnes Currie. He married 13. Jean Gibson November 27, 1818 in Tarbolton, Ayrshire, Scotland.[ Correct-ADG 2005]
13. Jean Gibson, born June 18, 1794 in Tarbolton, Ayrshire, Scotland[ The wrong Jean Gibson - ADG 2005 ]; died February 03, 1866 in 10 St. James Street, Tarbolton, Ayrshire, Scotland.[ Correct-ADG 2005]. She was the daughter of 26. James Gibson and 27. Margaret Denholm.[ Correct-ADG 2005]
William GREGG {M} [P475]
Born March 1800, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland
Christened Sunday 9 March 1800, Tarbolton
Died Sunday 9 February 1879, Tarbolton [Unmarried]
Buried Tarbolton Church yard
OCCUPATION: silk weaver
SOURCE: OPR
OPR TARBOLTON: 'William Gregg lawful son to William Gregg and Agnes Currie in Tarbolton baptised 9th march 1800'.
William may have been the father to Janet Norton Gregg[P493]
Piece: SCT1841/619 Place: Tarbolton-Ayrshire Enumeration District: 6 Civil Parish: Tarbolton Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 0 Page: 1
Address: Montgomerie Streeet
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GIBB Margaret F 40 Druggist Ayrshire
GREGG William M 40 Silk Handloom Weaver Ayrshire
PEEBLES Alexr. M 25 Agricultural Labourer Ayrshire
William appears on a 1861 census at 17 Montgomery Street Tarbolton aged 61 unmarried and a silk weaver. He was living with his widowed sister Elizabeth[P464]. William died unmarried in 1879 - ailment was general Paralysis 10 days! Witness to cert John Gregg-nephew
1861 census 17 Montgomery Street Tarbolton:
Elizabeth Pettigrew head widow 70 silk weaver b.Mauchline M/S Gregg
William Gregg brother unmarried 61 silk weaver b.Tarbolton
Janet Pettigrew grand-daughter 14 scholar b.Tarbolton
Agnes GREGG {F} [P461] = Robert WELSH {M} [P462] > Family [F148]
Married Friday 21 September 1832, Tarbolton Ayrs (IGI)
Agnes GREGG:
Alias Agnes WELSH (Friday 21 September 1832)
Born July 1803, Tarbolton Ayrs Scotland
Christened Saturday 16 July 1803, Tarbolton Ayrs
Died Saturday 30 May 1863, Tarbolton
Buried Tarbolton Church Yard
OCCUPATION: Silk Weaver
SOURCE: SCR FR312 & 465 IGI C116194
OPR TARBOLTON: 'Agnes Gregg lawful daughter of William Gregg and Agnes Currie in Tarbolton baptised 16th July 1803'.
Agnes died aged 60 of fever according to her death cert. No.45 Tarbolton.
Robert WELSH:
Born EST 1806, Ayrshire?
Died Friday 1 January 1875, Tarbolton
OCCUPATION: silk weaver
SOURCE: OPR/IGI
Name varies in spelling from Welch to Welsh. Robert died from congestion to lungs according to his death cert. No.1 Tarbolton. Robert's father was named William Welch and his mother ... Strawthorn.
Family
OPR OCHILTREE: 'William Greig and Agnes Currie both of this parish after regular proclamation were married 26th September 1788'.
William is said to have been a Master of Manners and the Dance Master at the Bachelors Club in Tarbolton in the late 1770's and dance tutor to Robert Burns. A Fiddle said to have belonged to him was presented to the National Trust in July 1997[Ayrshire Post - 20th June 1997]. The presenter was a Major John Weir Chairman of the Batchelors Club committee. It was stated the fiddle was handed down through several generations of his family , but this was incorrect . John Weir accquired it from a local source in Tarbolton. Williams relationship to those currenly thought [by Matthew Greig b.15/10/1923] to be his parents is still to be proved. If James Greg was indeed William's father, then he too was known to have been a Master of Manners and a Dance master, so it could have been either or both who was the Dance Master to Burns. William would have been only in his early teens!
A problem arises where a William Greg[son of James Greg] is recorded as having died aged 10 years(Ayr] at the time this William was also aged 10.
William and his wife Agnes Currie lived out their final years at Failford Alms Hospital which was errected from a legacy left by the late Alexander Cooper esq. of Failford and upheld by the same legacy. Although the premises were burnt down and no longer exist the legacy is still in force and is managed by a committee who are still to decide what to do with the funds[ADG1997].
Codes in square brackets "[]" are unique person/family identifiers.
{M} = Male; {F} = Female.