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Introduction
A great deal of documentation can be accumulated in the course of researching a family history, and one wonders what best to do with all this information. In the hope that it might be of interest to others, I decided to amass the details and records into one source, concluding that the obvious answer was to write a book. Not so obvious was how to do it. Wishing to present something other than a list of endless genealogical statistics, I decided to research a little further into the lives and the times in which our ancestors lived.
The results of my studies to date allow us to take a brief look at each generation of our family spanning the last 250 years. The historic and personal details have been checked and re-checked from as many sources as possible. The facts of course, remain open to question, correction, or revision at any time, and I would welcome any communication in that respect. To the best of my knowledge the details and stories presented are true, having been determined from such information as could currently be found.
My special thanks go to Cousin Matthew Greig[P833] of Giffnock Scotland. A Sherlock 'MacHolmes' if ever I met one. Having lived most of my life in the South-East of England, I had for one reason and another practically lost contact with our relatives north of the border, and assumed therefore that I would be unable to acquire information from that direction. Then in 1994 I was informed that Matt had recently made contact with my sister Margaret[P532], and I was delighted to receive a 'phone call from him shortly after. It had been nearly 40 years since we last met - being the day of my Father's funeral in 1955.
Matt informed me that he had been gathering information relating to our family history for a number of years, and details from his investigations in Ayrshire solved many of my outstanding queries. It also provided me with a new impetus to further pursue my project studies.
Then, in 1995 we eventually met again in Scotland, where we discussed and swapped ideas and theories that led us both to new discoveries. Matt also introduced me to new sources of information from which I have been able to acquire a great deal of new material. Since that time we have shared many hours enthusiastically retracing the footsteps of our
Gregg forebears. It has been a fascinating experience visiting the towns, villages, libraries, and churchyards associated with our family history. This presentation would be comparatively scant, were it not for Matt's tremendous help, and for the contributions from his own research and family records.
From another direction, I also learned that our cousins Betty Walters[P531] [formerly Perry] and her sister Rose had been working on a history of the Doyle branch of our family - descended from one Michael Doyle[P521] born 1797 in County Down Ireland.
My Grandmother, Margaret Gregg(maiden name Doyle)[P513] and their Grandfather John Dale[P851](My Great Uncle) were brother and sister.
Dale is a variation of the name Doyle, and was adopted by John Dale [alias Doyle] around 1900.
Through their Mother, Gertrude Perry[P524] - formerly Dale, and daughter to the above John Dale, Betty and Rose link up with the Gregg family from both their Doyle and
Perry roots. Gertrude, a first cousin to my Father, was married to uncle James Perry[P525],
brother to my Mother. Hence, through my Father, Gertrude was my first cousin once
removed, Betty and Rose therefore, my second cousins.
Through my Mother, Gertrude also became my aunt because of her marriage to
Uncle James, and Betty and Rose - my first cousins!
Additionally, to compound the whole issue, not only was Gertrude my Father's
first cousin, but also his sister-in-law through her marriage to
my Mother's Brother! Complicated but quite legitimate. Work it out for yourself from the details contained herein.
It has been somewhat harder to
trace my mother's forebears because they moved around between England and
Scotland. However, following some 'lucky breaks' and 'gut-feelings' I was able
to trace the Perry's, Fletcher's, Dundas's and Duncan's back to about 1780 from both sides
of the border, from Birmingham Warwick and Worcester in England to Edinburgh
Mid-Lothian and Dunfirmline Fife in Scotland. This work is still of course in
progress as their other locations are slowly revealed.
Introduction to The Gregg Family History Project
Our recorded family history currently extends back to 16th Century Ayrshire in Scotland, just south of the old Dalriadic Kingdom on the West Coast of Scotland. We know that during the early 1600's descendants of the branch of MacGregors at Balquihidder, under the adopted name of Gregg, moved location from their birthplace and settled in Greenock, south of Glasgow Scotland. Following an Irish rebellion that was put down by Oliver Cromwell's armies[1649/1650], and the dispossessed lands granted to thousands of English and Scottish families, some of these Gregg's then relocated to Ulster in Northern Ireland. Ironically, many Scots who settled in Ireland were returning to the land of their distant ancestors.
I have heard it said that those Gregg's who settled and remained in the Clyde and Glasgow region might well be the source of our Ayrshire Gregg's. Early Parochial Records in Ayrshire show such names as John, David and Andrew Gregg much in alignment with those Gregg's who settled in Greenock. This being so, would indicate our connection with the Dalriadic Alpin/MacGregor line
who settled in the west of Scotland, and so recorded in ancient legends and chronicles, ranging back to about 600 A.D.
To venture any further back would be more conjecture, and take us on a journey through Celtic Ireland to the ancient European
and Asian immigrants from the mists of time. Meanwhile, we will content ourselves with proven research that presently takes our line back to the early 1700's.
Survival is not a straightforward business. Life has always been a struggle against war, want and disease; and perpetuity of lineage is a precarious matter. In each of the four generations preceding my Grandfather, only one son produced boys to continue the family name. Although the odds improved slightly in the next two generations, the trend now appears to be reverting to its former state.
Of three brothers born to my parents, we each in turn produced only one boy. Future survival of our branch of Gregg's therefore depends greatly upon the volume and gender of their children. It will be their prerogative to perpetuate the genes of our forebears.
Currently[2005] there are four boys in our youngest generation named Gregg. The youngest being James Paton Joseph Gregg[P1867] born in Ipswich England - May 28 2005. See
Ancestral Tree based on James Joseph
Paton Gregg.
The sequence of events that follows is arranged in 'reverse order'', because, from the time I first embarked on this project, this is precisely the way in which my investigations progressed. The only information in my possession was my birth certificate, a few oddments collected over the years and a handful of memories from childhood. Subsequent investigations then led me back to papers and effects relating to my Parents and Grandparents, and for me, that is where the fascination of family
history and genealogical research began.
Copies of Birth, Marriage and Death Certificates obtained from Register Offices then provided further links to the names of other relatives, their addresses, age, causes of death, and places of interment.
National Census Records dating back to 1841 have provided information on family structures, occupations, places of residence, and living conditions prevailing at the time. However, civil records for births, deaths and marriages only began in Scotland in 1855, and to delve beyond that we must rely mostly on Old Parish Registers kept by the local parish churches.
From early times until the 19th century, everyone was required by law to attend church regularly and the priests were ordered to keep a register of all baptisms, marriages, and burials. Unfortunately, many of those original records were lost due to deterioration of the paper on which they were written, and in 1598 it was ordered that all new registers must be kept on parchment. By in the 17th century, the registration requirements were amended to include births and deaths also. In those times when few people could neither read nor write, misnomers were often created by the parish priests and clerks who would simply write down their own interpretations of the spoken name.
A substantial amount of information relating to dates of baptisms, marriage and burials in the early days has been obtained from the International Genealogical Index, otherwise known as the IGI Registers. This vast library of statistics, is compiled worldwide by members of The Church of Jesus Christ of The Latter Day Saints and is accessible through most libraries and Family History Centres.
Note: In 1999 The Church of Jesus Christ of The Latter Day Saints launched a genealogy Internet site. It currently provides free information from their International IGI Registers - covering USA and Great Britain. Other countries are to be added as the site progresses. I found the search facilities most helpful in that I was able to find details of my Mother's Grandparents, Charles Perry and Charlotte Dundas. I was under the impression they were from either the Birmingham or Newcastle areas of England. Until this time they had alluded me in my searches because I had been searching for them in English Parishes. By searching the IGI web site I was able to find records of their marriage, and the births of their children, in Edinburgh Parish, Midlothian, Scotland.
Then I traced their movements back and forth between Scotland and England.
Perhaps I would never have found these details without the aid of the computerised search facilities offered at this web site. The Internet page address is:
Family Search - International Genealogy Service. http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchigi.asp
Another good source has been the Old Parish Registers in Scotland(OPR's), and the Scottish Church Records(SCR's) which often provide additional information such a person's occupation and address.
Armed with all these details, and referring to books concerned with the places and times in which they lived, we can gradually determine a reasonably accurate portrayal of our ancestors lives - like a fascinating jigsaw puzzle of our
past - one piece at a time.
It would take volumes to tell the life story of any particular character portrayed, and that was not the aim of this project. However, in each chapter I have included some details of personal or historical interest from which we can glean an insight into their lives and their era. As an alternative to writing pages and pages of overwhelming statistics, a TIMELINE of events has been included at the end of each chapter to indicate a clearer picture of the period concerned.
All persons and families in the following records have been given computerised suffixes 'P' and 'F' and can be identified as Person [P123], etc. or Family [F123], etc.
Our recorded family story takes us on a journey through Ayrshire Scotland, the earliest years leading us from Ayr on the west coast, encompassing en-route such locations as Ochiltree, St Quivox, Tarbolton, Kilmarnock and Mauchline, to Darvel in the east of Ayrshire.
Our earliest recorded and traceable Gregg ancestor is known to be one William Gregg[P439] born circa 1766 in Ayrshire Scotland.
The longest recorded life span in our family tree is that of Agnes Currie[P440], his wife, also born about 1766. Agnes survived 90 years and died from old age in 1855, an outstanding achievement for the period in which she lived.
Our earliest recorded-assumed ancestor is presently thought to be John Henderson[P151] born about 1683. His Granddaughter Janet Henderson[P438] married into the Greg family[F142] at Ayr in 1752. There is good reason to connect Janet and her husband James Greg[P437] to the afore mentioned William[P439]. It is likely they were his parents, (our missing link), but alternative possibilities exist and must be pursued.
Our largest recorded family is that of Matthew Gregg[P512] and his wife Margaret Doyle[P513], born 1857 and 1859 respectively. They were my Grandparents, and produced 13 children.
We have evidence of Gregg's living in the Ochiltree area of Ayrshire in the early 1600's, i.e. Another William Gregg[P283] born there in 1609. If we could but find and prove our missing link, it would no doubt lead us back to him, and perhaps beyond.
To date[Jan 2007], I have researched over 2000 individuals, in more than 550 families. (Listed in our
Scottish Gregg and Related Links). Of those, about 450 persons, representing more than 100 families have been proven to be the descendants of my earliest recorded forebears. About 230 males and 220 females make up eleven generations. Each name, with their known details, appears in our Family Alphanumerical listing, and although not a flawless account of all William's descendants, they are sufficient to give an overall indication of the family tree, its branches, and roots.
One interesting, but sobering statistic to emerge from this research, is that five generations of fathers and sons preceding my own, lived only to the ages of 67, 42, 63, 52 and 56. (An average of 56 years). Their respective wives, however, lived to 90, 77, 75, 75 and 89 (An average of 81 years). One wonders just what secret these women shared!
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